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Bruce Guldner Conner (11/18/1933-7/7/2008) was born in MacPherson, Kansas. He has been a filmmaker, photographer, assemblage creator, sculptors, philosopher, painter, conceptual artist, post-Duchamp activist, and more. He moved to San Francisco in the late fifties and became associated with the Beat Movement. In the late seventies, V. Vale gave him a press pass to take Punk photographs for Search & Destroy magazine…
V: I will. But it’s true. And I also realized that you had captured some really horrific moments in terms of the people in the footage—the anonymous people and things that happened to them. They probably suffered internal injuries, broken bones, died, what- ever—but yet, everyone in the audience was laugh- ing! You somehow managed to combine laughter and humor with catastrophe.
BC: Well, A Movie starts out with classic “comic” events. Bit by bit it makes it clear that people are really getting hurt here. At a certain point it changes; stops being a laughing matter, and everybody gets pretty quiet.
V: Well, it seems that you have definitely destabi- lized, and contributed a lot of Surrealist thinking, to many onlookers of your art. I think a lot of the art you’ve done has really been pranks. So let’s talk about the idea of your art as pranks—
BC: Well, what in the world can I possibly say after I say, “I’m sorry.”
V: Like, “I’m sorry I changed your perceptions of the world of film.”
BC: I could say: “I apologize. I have really bad manners. It’s been a big mistake. I hope you don’t ever take any of this seriously again.”
V: “I’m sorry I did a paint-by-numbers version of da Vinci’s Last Supper and showed it at the de Young Museum of Art”—
BC: Yes, absolutely.
V: And, “I’m sorry I took all this rotting material and made all these creepy assemblage-collage 3-D sculpture things and tried to pawn them off as ‘art’ on you, the gullible public.”
BC: Absolutely.
V: I remember when I first saw some of those they looked absolutely creepy, and I then had to “process” it.
BC: Oh, you did? How did you process it?
V: I went, “Wait a minute—this is ‘art’?”
BC: [laughs] Well, that’s just because it was in an art gallery or an art museum, probably. People just jump to those assumptions, don’t they?
V: Well, your work certainly makes them think a lit- tle, rather than just going, “Ooh, that’s beautiful.”
BC: But I like it when they say that about my stuff, too!
V: Of course. But then, creepy things can be beautiful—
BC: I guess so.
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