Dena Fam is a Sydney-sider and for the last 12 years she has worked at the Institute for Sustainable Futures, at the University of Technology Sydney with a focus on facilitating collaborative learning experiences and projects across disciplines, knowledge communities and sectors. She has published three books on Transdisciplinary collaboration and most recently an illustrative journal 'In isolation - the solace of a sunrise during uncertain times' documenting the sunrise during self-isolation during the pandemic of COVID19 (with all proceeds from the book donated to the Asylum Seeker Resource Centre).